The vindicator, 14 février 1832, mardi 14 février 1832

[" Io Ifanteais.Ces Smperial Pav THE ADDRESS.JIQUSA OF COMMONS, Tuesday, N-c G.Lord Cavendish (late Mr.Cavendish).cose to propose the address in nn.swer to his Majesty's most.gracious speech.He alluded to the importance of its topics, and expressed his satis action at the carly assembling of Parlin.ment, in order to \u201cdivert the eves of the country to its deliberations,\u201d He re isiced to find that on the subject of eT VOL.IV.TE 7 EN a) of x So Sila SEPT 3 Fe dar ~~ me \u2014\u2014 \u2014 na OR reform the words of his Majesty's speech | were plain ondd explicit.(Hear.)\u2014 | Every hour showed the increasing necessity of some measure on the subject.With respect to the disgraceful occur-~ .LL ; rences which lind taken place at Bristol, what words did Ministers convey this be was undoubtedly of opinion that romantic, this Quixotic wish pu A they owed their origin in the first p'ace 3peedy ond satisfactory conclusion.\u201d to à manifestation of political opinion, He would tell them, as he had before which was immedintely taken adeantage the honour of stating to the house, that of by unprincipled persons for the pur.®ith speed they might go.but that ce posct of indiscriminate plunder.(ITear, tisfaction would Ing far behind.\u2014(hear.) hear.) The dominion of the plunder.Had there been a single public meeting ing rabble justified and required the re- At which the approbatjon of the Bill hud commendation with respect ton muni- Mot been accompanied by some condi.cipal police.For the unions he had no tional hepe that it would be but the be hesitation in saying, that if these bodies RIAOINE of u turge and a larger reform ?assumed the form of permanent associn- iad it not been stated in distinct words tions, he did not think it possible to to be only A stepping-stone to other ob- view them in any other light than ns JPCtS ?When society was in sncha state extremely injurious to the government that a judge could not, with all precau- of the country.Whatever might ba lions, and under the sanction of Govern the opinion of those who opposed re\u2014 ment, proceed te discharge the duties form, he thought that all reformers of his wfice\u2014(hear, hicar)\u2014if à person would agree that the only wav to later., | À tere with these political unions wac ta | ed for the obstinacy and temerity with make them uscless, by redressing tle which he proceeds to execute his duty, grievances of the people.The quaran- | could the Tories, if they had Kone to \u201cne laws formed another agaravation of public meeting, have lhoped to obtain n that distress.The wmalignity of the hearing 2 WW hes, the han, Member disease which bad appeared amongst : would procure fur cae Tories what they us was less to be drended than the con ! had _here\u2014n clear stage and n fair hear.sequences tp our commerce of the jing-\u2014he was ready to pn with lim to means necessary to prevent its spreading.any ordeal, and there to rive the ren- With regard to his Majesty's allusion | BOVE of the faith that was in him.\u2014 hear, to Ireland, it might, pe.\u2019 ps, be said, hear.) He agreed with Ministers that that the law, as at present existing, \u2018there could be, or at least that there compelled the payment of tithes, and ought to be, but one government in the that it wae the duty of government to country.\u2014(hear, hear.) He thought it enforce the law.For, setting aside Was inconvenient to bave one govern- hether it was or was not Ment in Downing street, another in the aus me = pa aa = 2 7e EN dt RAR CEE of that exalted station #ns to be censur-| MONTREAL, TUESDAY EVENI [ta obtainit.He lad no objection te the terms of the speech; and, under these circumstances, it would not become him, or any person near him, to offer n slight to the higuest authority by moving an amendment.(lear) Mr.Stanley being personally alluded to said, with reference to the passage in the King's speech us to the tithe system in Iceland, and the mensures which it night be necessary to adopt upon that subject, there wan not the slightest and those with whom he had the honour to uct; hie agreed with the right hon, gentleman that the complaints respecting the tithe system of Ireland, and the cry which was roised from one end of the kingdom to the other in favour of reform, ought to be viewed in che same light, and he was dispesed to view the same courae in hotli cases.\\Whilst, en the one hand, Ministers were determine ed to employ all the means at their disposal, and if those should be found insufficient, to auply to Parliament for further powers to put down illegal combinations, they were not so presumptu.sus as to resist the equitable dni, and to attempt to stifle the voice, of a whole people.\u2014(hear, hear.) 1f a clamour, just and_unjuat\u2014partially one, and par.tinlly the other\u2014Dbe ruised in a country, what was the duty of government?\u2014 Was it not their duty io the fret instance to suppresa the iHegal and itlegitimate clamour by the strong mm of the law, and in the nest place to proceed directly to remedy substantial grievances 2\u2014 Would any man sny that the system of tithes in this cou.tiy\u2014much more in Iretand\u2014wna net frauglt with great) mischief, particulirly when the country is in a state of excitment from other causes 7 Could it be said to be one likely to produce a friendly and amicable feelings between the clergy and their difference of opinion between himself \u2014 NE, FEBRUARY 14, 1832.orthy and im- weeks before the riots nt Bristol, he the opposition had called the attention of that house bench and the Government to what had hap- 1e papers he lind named were known! pened nt Nuttingham, and he had stat.to be in daily correspondence with the! ed, that if persons were permitted to preusury.und vet day ter day they net on the principle of public vengeance i persevered in attacking lim as the there would be found to be a slight par- eriminnl author of these cnlumities.\u2014 \u2018titien wall between the house of News Hik experience compelled him to say, [castle and the house of a reformer, \u2014 that there were some members of the And so it was, for the Custom-house of press wha were false, base, scandalous, ithe reforming Chancellor of the Exche- and Immorn! 3 he would further say, that quer was burned down at Bristol\u2014the these individuals knew the falsehood of Excise-office, the gaols, £e.which were their allegations, and were aware that |not the reaidence of antisreformers.\u2014 they could be contradietsd.(hear, from:(Laughter.) With regard to the Com the opprsition.) How stood the facts 2! misaien, he had put in his claim to be A deputation from Bristol, consisting included in it, ne n matter of right, to of the sheriff and one of the aldermen, [the Secretary of the Heme Department had waited or lim, and hind stated that jand he bad also submitted it in writing {the pereou of the rccordee, who, in thejto the Lord Chancellor, 1fe would \u2018exercise of his official duties, mude a {maintain that he had n right to be there public entry into the city, would not, jand he would advance the same claim under the circumstances of the yeriod, [in behalf of the carporation, le wou'd be safe, A conversation then took place not charge the Government with hein in which he, (Sir C.Wetherell) inquir- {influenced by the wish personally to dl.ed whether the magistrates could net {grade himself of (he mugistrucy, but he furnish a constabulary force adequate to would say that they had Commitied r the maintenance ef public pence.In {grievous error in not meluding every per the opinion of the deputation n sufficient {son in the commission who was ent led constabulary force could not be furnish- [to nssist in the guol delivery, pursunnt cd.In consequence of this, he desir-|to the provisions of the city charter, \u2014 ed the deputation to wait on the Noble] And why waa this course taken > Be- Lord who was Sceretary for the home cause of the unions; berause of those Department; and chat the Noble Lord {associations, with one of which (the Wie.might put any inquiries without the res.Jminglinm union) 4 noble triction which his (Sir C.Wetheroll's) had corresponded, after presence might possibly have imposed, bad come to n resolution cle ae had conceived it better to be absent.|imating to high treason, (bear, hear.) The de putution waited, unions that lea! deposed the neeordingly on the Noble Secretary, and and the recorder wilitury assistance was furnished.It their resolution was arranged that every thing should go laugh.) The only en as weunl, in the presence of sone sanction this de mewbets of the cabinet.Thus if go-|Jeffries attac \u2014\u2014\u2014 mie a.m every thing that was unw woral.\u2014{\u2018* hear\u201d from benches.) wely approx.Mingistrates of Bristol\u2014it that had done it.(\\ precedent in paint to hed 10 it\u2014a name which he vrervever nd verre rs 1 vernment.This, however, he would say, that if a necessity for it could be made out, the Government would show the same promptitude for which they in the care of Bristol, His hon, and eecorder, and why, indeed, were the mayor and aldermen of Bristol, left out of the special commission sent down iq Bristol 7 Mis hon, and Learned Fiiend had said, that it waz a matter of right that their names should be inserted.\u2014 That mere claim of right wade it impossible that their nimes coule he inserted.How was it possible that Government could make any concession to judges, who claimed to act as such in what was their own?If, fiom a fear of the tn.putation or giving wuy to the union, the Gavernment had appointed the recorder of leisto! a judge in his own cause, it would have heen a none flagrant instance of their folly in being ufraid of being thought afraid.110 would remind bis hon and Learned Friend, that in 1769, n special commia- aston, drawn up by J.Dunning, excluded the mayor and recorder of Bristo!.\u2014 Though he wus quite certain, that lis hon, and Learned Friend would not have acted had he heen named a meu- ber of the commission, he could not look upon that as suthcient reason for naming him an member of it, aa it would furnish a precedent for placing upon similar commissions men similarly circumstanced with his hon, & Leaned Friend but not possessing big high acnse of honour.As his hon.and Learned Friend hued risen to vindicate himself from the libelu which had been publish ed against hirgeell, vo hind he vixen ta reply to the statements of bis hon.and Learned Friend, which impugned the candact of his olive.Sir I.Peel comntained of Parlinment being brought together at so short a notice, anid alin that the Raya speech, contained no allusion to the Bank and East India chartere, and.continued, with regard te politicaily excommunicated Portugal the question which he thought lord opposite | ith tmemhore! (not ?\u201d li wux these, waxitants of that position had the name of, vernment thought thut military operation wars necessary, nnd that it was aleo necessary to suspend the usual gaol de- vs the question w ' rest El practicable tn euforce the law on the Strand, another at Birmingham, another HA subject, ho believed that those who ad # Manchester, aud another again nt 2 1R vised re Miseries of the Irish pour.\u2014 Wu shall again and again turn our thoughts to thiv subject, nnd if possible enlist public and private sympathy in bwtialf af the most wretched and forlorn of our i fillow Christians, wlives state of destitution is What is to come of them?Are they in a Christian dicatiors vf the disapprevntion of the conn- | tiv.\u2018Fhe reason are obvious.Heis held 10 be-n deserter from the independent interest to which he originally professed to ndlicre : Leleft Jude Wallis atl un eause for which hie bad uncloaked, to become clerk of the Peace, wal legal ndviser at the York and Simeoe hustings to Messrs, J.I an 1 VV.BR.tobinson ; \u201cle had _inforimed the ciectors that hie approved ofthe conduct of (he ma- jouity of the Assembly who had bwice expel.land, to be allowed to perish unaaticed and jet (Les member, and he denvunced Mr.utknowa 7 Let those who are incredulous as to ! Mackenzie in the haesle terms, and Duded ! Col.! van «who direct the York Bank, ns the saviours of tha couniry.the existence of this Large tmass of misery fit visit anv of the lanes and alleys of this city, and | they will be at once undeceivel\u2014even those parts | of it where the wheel and the alittle were once busily employed are now the abodes of lid | Ailen and the olmoxivus political di- \u2018The influence of the executive during the poverty und disease, What think you, fathers first duy was divided batwsen Col.Washburn of faniilies, to see a family of nine persons sitting and Me.Small but the former wns evidently of aie whute votes polled ae his elec dawn to a seanty meal of ref, not dry potatous, | in four nnd twenty hows?What think you mo thers, of tlz another of six childien being found cogaged in stirting a put of water in a corner: where a fire veus not (using 8 maternal deception) to silence the orics of hungry, until, weary with watching, ber chikiren (eli fast nileep?\u2014of a man burning old shoes, to produce a sinoke, ns he told us, 10 keep out the damp?Thew are only specimens, selected from no dense mans of nisery which vow pervades this once prosperous, dat now cuined and neglected city \u2014 Kilkenny Journal.- Éclontal.UPPER CANADA.From the Colonial Advocate.COUNTY OF YORK ELECTION OPINIONS OF TUE PEOPLE CONCERNING THE PRESENT HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY Popular cstimate of the Legislative Council!!! At the opening of the election Mr, Mackenzie first niddressed the electors, He mldlier- eV ta the principles Laid dawn in Lis nddress of the 2d, January last fur which he had heen re=expelled, approved of the pelitions to the King and Parliament nov in course of sis.nature, nnd stated Lis lime determination ty retire from political life if all the candidates who then were or who might be opposed to Lim should receive together no majority of the whole votes of the frecholders that would be given ia a 6 days\u2019 Poll, We 1in- tead to copy his remarks into a futnie run.ber.Me, Small spoke next.We tonk notes of some of the principal passages in las speceh, \u201c1 think,\u201d sad he, ** that the Legutnive Council isa Hunbug.As lon: us the majority of thal house is composed of government olficers, depetdent on the wiil of the goverment who appoicted them for their support it is not in han nature that they ean act consistently for the pes- ple.\u2018They cannot do it, and 1 think they ought tu Le overhauled, The Legisintive Council ought to be independent of the crown and of the people.\u201d Mr.Small, rithout stating ia what way lie would have the crown exercise the right of nomination so as to produce this desited independence, declared his of position to a council to be elected by the fieeholders of Upper Canada wight be made the instenment of ruin and misery to the country, but argues! that thus far it had not been so.amd endeavoured to make it appear that the issue of bauk paje: hind caused the rise in the price of produce, Te thouxlt the province liad got good security, of £20,000 of their own woney in the hank ; and assured them that unless the province should inl the York bank never could, Was of opinion that Me.Bidwetl*s intestate estate bill would not be so nelvan- tageous to the peeple us they expected, but would support aif elected, should it be their wish, Cunsidered the expenditure favish, but that situated ne the province is we coul not Lielp ourselves: Atlowed it was nonsense to vote £300 (a one oflirer nnd £1200 to Another-lo profess to make reductions while the members of government had at their disposal, without parliamentary control, from £15.000 to £20000.out of which to pay these oflicers aud aalaries whinterer su, they plewet.The control of the whale provincial revenues, ought to be in the le, gislature, & if elected he would never votes the sup lies until it were a0 placed.Mr.Saall was heard which attention thus fur: but when he began ta explain bis conduet in the prosecution of Mr.James [logy there was so much hissing and shooting that we really could not could not hear what Le said althcugh standing close beside him.We understozd him however to intimate that Lie would mthait the facts to the public through the press Mr.Samll stated mo distines terms that hie did uot come before the freeholders ag approving of the conduct of the minjosity of the Asseuldy in thew repented expulsions of Mr.Mackenzie ; he consider ed their proceeding in these cases atbiteary and unconstitutional.Bat as they lind Je.elared Mr.Mackenzie disqualified be hn come forwaid presuming tint the electors would see the expediency\u201d of not re.ciecting a member who cauld not take this sent \u2014 ile said hie vpposed Mr.Washbuen uot Mr, Mackenzie, who he was satisfied would have a mnjority ol the votes, Col.Wushbura was very ill received : it evidently appeared that the electors lind the dislike to lam.\u2018I'hey would hear nothing lie bud to offer, there were very many pes- ple present, aud they literally hissed and hoote | him ont of countenance, so that be; turned the winlow where hie bad heen addressing them and attempted to gain the attention of those ineide the hall.Even (here landlord cannot obtain Lis rent; Lis 1l pernmons who may have Work or employment fo give out, to make application to C WAGNER, l'aquire, ne to Me, Asnskw Hat.Lock, Main Street St.Antrine suburbe.\u2018I'he Society hason hand and for sale, 2000 WHEAT AND SALT BAGS, male hy the Wy.dows aud Orphans of Emigrants, which are particularly reenmmended to those engaged in the trade, ., .sage oil] 28 being made of the best materials and workman.TQUIE Annnal Meeting of this Society will ship, sanmiples of whieh may he sean at Mr.Woy.be held in their Rooms, ST.PETER ner'nor atthe Seeestary\u2019s Office.Brick Huiidinge, Street, on FRIDAY, the 17h Instant, ot Mlulf;s£.Lawrence Hill.® past SEVEN O'Croex 1M, JOHN C, GUNDI,ACK.WE\u201d Menheis nro requested to be punctual in SECRETARY their attendnnes, ne on Te evening on wlection] M! 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