Montreal herald and daily commercial gazette, 26 juin 1850, mercredi 26 juin 1850
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Tuscan and Straw Bonnets 6 do Shawls and Handkerchiefs 3 do Swiss and Tape Checks, Jaconet, Book and Mull Muslins do assorted Small Wares bales Wilton and other Ginghams do Cotton Drills and Moles do Printed and other Fents ROBERT ADAMS, 226£, St.Paul Street.58 AMONGST this GREAT COLLECTION, which is the LARGEST ever EXHIBITED IN AMERICA, is the Rhinoceros, or the Unicorn of Holy Writ ; The first and only one in America since 1836.The great difficulty in capturing this huge and savage creature together with the almost impossibility of keeping him alive in a climate so uncongenia-to his habits and constitution, renders the exhibition of a living RHINOCEROS, the greatest Curio, sily in the Animai Kingdom.ALSO, THE WHITE POLAR BEAR, The only one in America; which is considered the most rare of all animais kept in a temperate climate for exhibition, they being only inhabitants of the most Frnhc Zohe.In this great collection of Animals, will be seen Fourteen Lions, Of the Finest Specimens from diflerent Countries some of which presented to the renowned VAN AMUURGH, by Her Majesty Queen Victoria, in his recent tour through Europe.The MONSTER ELEPHANT COLUMBUS, the largest in America, Weighing 10,730 Pounds.Also, the Beautiful ELEPHANT, TIPPOO SULTAN, which has caused such a great sensation all over Europe, will go through a variety of Performances, such as Waltzing, Balancing, Ringing the Bell, Creeping on his fore-legs, Walking over his Keeper, Picking him Up, Drawing a Cork Born a Bottle! MR.VAN AMBURGH, THE MOST CELEBRATED OF ALL ANIMAL PERFORMERS, WILL GIVE AN EXHIBITION IN A DEN OF WILD ANIMALS.| His Performances with the Terrific Groum of LIONS, TIGERS, LEOPARDS, COUGARS, : PANTHERS, &c.The same as performed by him in ail the principal cities of EUROPE, with ! such great renown.HIDERALGO, THE LION TAMER, WILL GIVE A PERFORMANCE IN A JDcn of Winl Animals, Separate, and altogether different from Mr.VAN AM BURGH\u2019S, making two Grand Animal Performances in the same Exhibition.Many other performances will be given in the course of the Exhibition, such as PONIES MONKEYS, t&c, A full description of the Animals, which the great experience, enterprise, and resources of tiie Proprietors have enabled to bring together in one LARGE and SPLENDID COLLECTION will be found in the Bills, at the principal Hotels, previous to the arrival of the Company.The above Company have with them the only LIVING RHINOCEROS in America, and Mr.VAN AMBURGH is with the Company in person, and will perform with his cwn Trained Animals, at every Exhibition and he is not connected with any other establishment.B.J.HUNT, Agent for Raymond and Van Amburgh.June 12, 1850.\tgg r j 'to PROPRIETORS OF NEWSPAPERS, JL &c.&c.\u2014As EDITOR, G.H.desires|in Engagement.Addressed at 97, Notre Dante Street, before the 6ih Day of June, shall be responded to.May 31, 1850.\t79 WHOLESALE COMMISSION HOUSE.DRY GOODS.English, American and german FABRICS, for Sale by the Package, ant to order from the different Manufacturers.T.D.HALL.Warehouse, 166, St.Paul Street, 1 (Late Armour & Whiteford\u2019s), { May 15.\t65 AGENCY FOR THE ~ Following Ainvricim Mmitifac- llU'CS, Great falls, chicopee, cabot and DWIGHT DOMESTIC COTTONS, Brown and Bleached.COCHECO PRINT WORKS, Dover, N.H.\u2014ALSO,\u2014 Middlesex and Bay-State Woollen Manufactures, Shawls, &.C., Lowell, Mass.Orders taken for the above Fabrics, at Manufacturers\u2019 Prices, forwarded to all the Warehousing Ports in Canada, (E.& VV.,) direct from the Works, and for Sale by the Package, At No.166, St.Paul Street.T.D.HALL.May 15.\t65 DR.BERNARD, IJcaelisI, No.65, CRAIG STREET, Directly facing the French Church.HAVING completed the improvements in his residence, DR.BERNARD may now be consulted at all hunrs of the day.Persons who require DENTAL OPERATIONS ore respect, fully invited to give him a call at 65, Craig Street.May 25.\t74 TO BE SOLD.PAIR of Handsome CARRIAGE HORSES, quiet in Double and Single Harness, the Owner having no further use for them.Apply at the Herald Office.November 1.\t210 Storage jjâ Hoiasi.NE of the large first class STORES facing the Harbour, known as Try\u2019s Building, has been converted into a Customs\u2019 Warehouse, where parlies can have Siorage easonable terras, for GOODS in BOND.Apply to HOLMES, KNAPP & CO.May 11.\t3m\u201462 A MRS.GEN AND, No.I, Craig Street, begs to inform parties requiring ROOMS, that she can furnish comfortable Apaitments, at he present residence._ May 18.___ fig MRS.JAS.CONNELL, Senr., intends REMOVING on the 1st May next, to that central and pleasantly situated house, (the property of T.S.Judah, Esq.,) No.46, Craig Street, where she can accommodate three or four Gentlemen with FURNISHED APARTMENTS and HALF BOARD.For terms and other par» ticuiurs, application to be made at her present residence.No.172, Notre Dame Street.Mrr.C.can also accommodate a few YOUNG GENTLEMEN with FULL BOARD.March.28.\t41 A |>a rSmefiiis.A Single LADY or GENTLEMAN, (having their own Furnitnre,) can be accommodated with a SITTING and BEL) ROOM in on airy, pleasant part of the city.No other Lodgers.Apply at this office.June 18.\t94 LEGAL SALES Practical a ad Devolâoaaas Works BY UNITARIAN WRITERS.BARTOL\u2019S Discourses on the Christian Spirit and Life Peabody\u2019s Memoir and Sermons Bulfinch\u2019s Communion Thoughts Furness\u2019s Domestic Worship Ware on the Formation of the Christian Character Channing\u2019s Entire Works, in 2 vols Dewey\u2019s Entire Works, in 1 vol A.P.Peabody\u2019s Doctrinal Lectures Wilson\u2019s Scripture Prools of Unttarianism John Milton's Last Thoughts on the Trinity ; Dr.Channing\u2019s Disburse on the distinguishing opinions of Unitarians ; and other Tracts The \u201cNew York Christian Inquirer\u201d of June 1st and 8th, containing Répons of the late Religious Anniversaries in Boston For Sale by J.McCOY, Great St.James Street.June 12.\t89 Or 3ff 6 10 20 May 7.|7«OR SALE by the Subscribers:\u2014 i?1000 brls Extra and Superfine Flour 50 hall brls Pastry\tdo 150 brls Oatmeal, 224 lbs each 300 do Mess and Prime Mesa Pork 350 kegs Dairy Butter 25 brls North Shore Salmon 60 do Green Codfish 45 drafts Large do 50 cwt Dry Codfish 500 bags Liverpool and Stoved Salt \u2014also\u2014 Cheese, Lard, Bacon, Hams, Apples, Pot Bar.ey, Fish Oils, Wrapping Paper, Buffalo Rokes, &c WATSON & WILLIAMS, East corner of St.Paul and McGill Sts January 17.\t8 SPRING ARRIVALS OF HATS AND CAPS.ABRESLER would respectfully inform his .Friends and the Public, that he has just OPtNED his Stock of Spring and Summer HATS AND CAPS, wItt b, in point of variety, quality and finish, cannot be surpassed in the city, while his prices will be found to correspond with the requirements of the times, as he is determined to do business at the lowest possible remunerating profit.In connexion with his OLD STAND No.1094, Notre Dume Street, he has now Opened the SPLEN DID NEW STORE No.86, in the same Street, nearly opposite the Old Court House, and as the Stock in each place is varied and complete, he respectfully solicits a call at either, or both, from those who require anything in his line of business.A.BRESLER, No.1094 and 86, Notre Deme Street.May 2.\t54 F yyniTiNG- 50 casks WHITING for Sale by TORRANCE & BUSTEED.June 5.83 FOR SALE by the Subscribers\u2014 Olive Oil Pale Seal do Whale\tdo Cod\tdo In Hhds and Barrels\t_ TORRANCE &.BUSTEED.No.21, St.Peter Street.May 29, 1850.\t\"7 igVlITHS\u2019 COALS:\u2014A Cargo of Superior quality, for Sale by Jun.6.THEODORE HART.¦xta\u201454 Cape Medeira, Brown Sherry, Lachryma Christie, Sautern, Barsac, Medoc, Curaçoa, Cha-olie, and a variety of Cordials, in cases.\u2014also,\u2014 Pale, Dark, and Cherry Brandies, Scheidam, Ltid very fine Old Jamaica, Penner\u2019s Cider, and L 'tidon Porter, in Quarts and Pints.\u2014TOOETHER WITH,\u2014 A General Assortment of GROCERIES, 1 EAS, &c., at very Low Prices.neil McIntosh, No.27, St.François Xavier Street.Montreal.Dec 21, 1848.\t231 OR SALE\u2014Mackerel No.2 & 3 Herrings No.I E.& V.HUDON, 100, St.Paul Street.April 30.\t52 F OR SALE\u2014Pale Seal Oil Straw do do Porpoise do, double clarified E.«fe V.HUDON, 100, St.Paul Street.April\t30.\t52 FOR\tSALE\u2014L.arge\tDry Table\tCod Fish Small\tdo\tdo E.\t«fe V.\tHUDON, 100, St.Paul Street.52 April 30.JUST LANDED, and for Sale by the Subscriber :\u2014 100 doz English Split Skins, Nos.1, 2, 3 500 yds Adhesive Plaster 50 casks Bi.Carb.Soda 200 lbs Refined Camphor, in jars 20 lbs No 1 Lint 10 jars Refined Liquorice JOHN WHYTE, No.10, St.Sacrament Street.June 7.\t85 FOR SALE, by the Subscriber:\u2014 50 boxes Belmont Sperm Candles 75 Satin Faced Starch 10 brls Twines 10 tierces Putty, in bladder and bulk 15 do Papered Lamp Black Boiled and Raw Linseed Oil ; Paints, Wet and Dry, &c.v the admirably logical est), ,ara;ument ot the hon Attorney GeneTau Upper Canada had^lways insisted that the k (Mr Baldwin) by which he was led to see the, property should not bo given to a Protestant [dangers of raising a tempest which mighty Clergy, but should be used for the purposes of [overturn existing interests in Upper Canada, - _ 1\t.it\t,\t.\t1\tInimn f ?Y»/-» v si/i ¦ io, + sif TTnr \\ education, the donor, that is to say the English Government, consented to allow its employment for any purpose approved of by the local authorities.He here read extracts from Lord Goderich\u2019s despatches, in proof of this permission given by the donor.Now, he asked whether, if there were even a vested right, which he denied\u2014whether the government would not have been bound even to neglect a vested right for the maintenance of the great principles of truth and justice ?He 'referred to the appropriation of the Irish church property, as a proof that there were cases in which the violation of such rights became the highest duty of the Legislature.Fortunately, however, that principle was not involved here ; he-looked upon the donation tinder the constitutional act, as inchoate and incomplete.Passing over these intermediate periods, however, and coming down to 1841, he confessed that he believed the Legislature of Upper Canada violated their trust, when they consented to the interference of the Imperial Parliament in this matter, and he did believe that the Imperial Parliament would willingly restore to tho Canadian Legislature, the right to manage its own property, when that right was demanded.He believed the only mode of reaching the object in view was by adopting the course taken by his hon friend, the member for South York.During this part of his argument, ( Mr Lafontaine rose and explained what \\ he had said yesterday.After the constitutional act of 1791, the Legislature of Canada had a right to deal with the subject, because that act gave that power up, to the passing of the act of 1840, which repealed the clauses giving this right.The constitutional act only gave the Legislature of Canada ihe power of creating these Reserves, but did not actually create them.But the act of 1840 took out of the hands of the Colonial Legislature this power, because it did allot reserves to specific purposes.Mr Drummond went on to say, that he understood, though he differed from it, the view taken by Mr.LaFontaine ; but even if he agreed with that gentleman, he should still think the distribution among all the sects impossible.However, he would not now, for he thought he was not called on to do so, go into that subject.But he was glad that these resolutions proposed to guarantee the rights of incumhents ; for it was necessary to regard the position in which the British Ministry might find itself placed, before the Parliament, and to show thut we were not tainted with the .socialistic and communistic views which had affrighted from their propriety some of the best men in England.He i then went into the subject of the Catholic \\ properties in Lower Canada, and contended 1 that, for the most part, they were not endow-1 ments but purchases.Mr.Chauveau said that after having heard the arguments on both sides, he avowed that since the beginning of the debate, with some \\exceptions, the arguments had been little intelligible ; but it was clear to him that what I was given for a religious purpose, ought to \\ be reserved for that purpose.Nor was he satisfied with the argument of the hon member for Shefford, that these properties were not given to any defined persons.That seemed to him to be far too subtle and technical\u2014 something more fit for the legal iriburwls than for the Legislature.He held, however, that it might be very necessary to discuss and perhaps legislate on the subject ; for throughout the civilized world questions which like this involved religious joined to political con-eiderations, were creating the greatest excitement.In France it was the University\u2014in Great Britain it was Maynooth\u2014here it was the Clergy Reserves.Believing then in the propriety of discussing the subject, he had to consider the propositions submitted by different parties.The proposition of the hon member for the West Riding appeared to him subject to greater objection than that of Mr.Price.He was not ready to ask the imperial Parliament, in a general manner, to give up the disposition of these properties, as if they belonged without any distinction to the common revenues of the Province.Let the demand be made to adjust the distribution of this fund, so as to divide them equitably among all claimants and he would willingly concur.But the Legislature had j not, as he thought, ihe right to dispose of the I clergy reserves for other than religions purpo-\\ ses, and, if that were so, it was clearly still worse to ask to have them given up, without making any provision for the persons, at present interested in them as incumbenis.The proposition, which appeared to him the least reasonable of all, was that of the hon member for Kent.It was clear that the measure proposed by that gentleman could not be carried out.Coming then to the proposition of the hon Commissioner of Crown Lands, he would say that he was not prepared at present to lay his hand on the fund and give it to any indifferent object.At the saine time he would not say that the clergy reserves was more sacred than any other portion of the public property : he would not sweep them away ; but upon a demand properly made, he thought, like all other property, they might be commuted, so as to prevent them from continuing, as it was well known they now were, most injurious to the interests of settlers.Neither would he say that it was impossible to effect a fair distribution among all religious denominations.He thought, however, that he should not be prepared to oppose himself, as a permanent obstacle to the wishes of the people of Upper \\ Canada, if they should show, aka new elec-» tine made on this point, a strong aucTdecided' \\even at the request of Upper Canada herself.' After some observations from Mr.H.J.Boulton, Mr.H.Sherwood went over the principal arguments which he had alleged the preceding evening.He stated also, that he would not now declare himself decidedly against a measure which would obtain the control of these lands from the Imperial Legislature, and gave some reasons against the act of 1840 ; but he would never consent, so far as he was concerned, to divert the funds _ from their original disposition to secular; purposes.\t^ ^ Mr.Chabot went over three propositions contained in the original resolutions, and the two amendments before the House, and after expressing his intention to vote against the amendment of Mr.Cameron, because it was illegal ; and against that of Morrison because it did not preserve the rights of the present incumbents ; he came to the original resolutions.He said, that on these he was ready do vote for the request to Great Britain to restore the control of this property to the colony ; but they went farther than this, and indicated an intention to dispose of it in a manner other than that for religious instruction.Now, if it were intended to dispose of the funds for Canals, or Railroads, or Education\u2014which last he looked on merely as giving it to the consolidated fund\u2014he wished that to be brought forward as a distinct proposition, and he would be ready to discuss it.But he did not wish to be entrapped into an opinion which he would be expected to carry out another day.For the present he would say that he saw no reason whatever, in favour of the idea that endowments of religion were bad.He thought, if religion was necessary, it was good that chapols and churches should have the means of support.Even supposing the present Parliament were to vote this demand on the Imperial Parliament, and the demand were granted, the actual disposition could not, in all probability, he made by the present Parliament.Was it probable the next Parliament would think like the present ?If not, what chance was there that it would be settled ?He felt that the intention of the hon.mover of the resolutions, was to engage the House in an indirect manner to a particular course, and gthis was tire more evident from the fact, that this long string of propositions was introduced most unnecessarily, in addition to that simple proposition, upon which the whole cabinet was agreed, viz.: that the Canadian Legislature ought to have the control of these funds.He concluded by repelling the observations which had been made with reference to the religious establishments of Lower Canada.Mr.Robinson called the attention of hon members opposite to the fact that in a House, where Ministers had so large a majority, there were so many different opinions on this question, and asked them, how it was possible therefore to expect the question could ever be settled.Mr Sanborn spoke in favour of the resolutions, and took the legal view which had been propounded by Mr Drummond.But he went further.He thought that vested rights might j properly be disturbed when they were created in wrong.This he illustrated by putting the case of half or three quarters of the lands of the Province having been thus disposed of, instead of one-seventh.It surely would not, then, be contended that the parties who possessed under such a grant, had a right to reduce the remainder of the population to the, position of serfs.He thought that no part of the population should have greater privileges than the other, and that the Catholics were not included in the first grant was, with him, an additional reason for not continuing the jnjustice.Mr Morrison replied on his amendment.Mr Lafontaine said he believed the hon To render these divisions intelligible we publish Mr.Price's Resolutions, below'\u2014to which the reader can refer.Mr.Cameron\u2019s (Kent) amendment we have already published : the division upon it was as follows :\u2014 For\u2014Bell, Boulton of Norfolk, Cameron of Kent, DeVVitt, Fergusson, Hall, Holmes, Hopkins, McConnell, Notman, Papineau, Scon of Bytown, and Thompson\u201413.Against\u2014Armstrong, Badgley, Attorney General Baldwin, Boulton of Toronto, Boulillier, Cameron of Cornwall, Cauchon, Cayley, Chabot, Chauveau, Christie, Crysler, Davignon, Duches-nay, Dumas, Flint, Fortier, Fourquin, Gugy, Guil.lei, Hincks, Jobin, Lacoste, Attorney General LaFontaine, LaTerriere, Laurin, Lemieux, Sol.General Macdonald, Macdonald of Kingston, Sir A N MacNab, Marquis, McFarland, McLean, Merritt, Méthot, Mongeuais, Morrison, Polette, Price, Prince, Richards, Robinson,Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageon, Scott of Two Mountains, Seymour, Sherwood of Brockville, Sherwood of Toronto, Smith of Durham, Smith of Frontenac, Smith of Wentworth, Stevenson, Taché, Viger and Wilson \u201456.On the Hon.Mr.Cayley\u2019s amendment\u2014in the following words :\u2014 That in the opinion of this Hr-ae it is inexpe.diem to disturb or unsettle by actment appropriations or endowments now existing in Upper and Lower Canada for religious purposes.That \u2022 the well-being of society and the growing wants of the various Christian bodies in Canada demand that the several provisions of the Imperial Act 3rd and 4th Vic., cap.78, should be carried out to their fullest extent, but that by the said Act one-halt of the interest arising from ail Clergy Reserves Sales made under the provisions of the said act, was placed at the disposal of the Governor General of Canada, with the advice of the Executive Council, for the purposes of public worship, and religious instruction.That the amount at the disposal of ihe Government exceeds £6000, and is rapidly accumulating.That the annual sales of reserves are large, and adopting the estimate of the Chief Commissioner of Crown Lauds will ultimately yield a revenue at the disposal of the Government exceeding £50,000 per annum.That il is expedient that the fund and the future revenues of the Government should be apportioned among the Roman Catholic, Free Church of Scotland, Presbyterian, Methodists, Baptist, Lutheran, and other Christian bodies, heretofore unprovided for.Such apportionment to be definitely made according to the next census to be taken ; meanwhile, according to the last population returns.For\u2014Badgley, Boulton of Toronto, Cameron of Cornwall, Cayley, Christie, Crysler, Gugy, Macdonald of Kingston, Sir Allan N MacNab, McLean, Robinson,Seymour,Sherwood of Brock-ville, Sherwood o! Toronto, Smith of Frontenac, and Stevenson\u201416.Against\u2014Armstrong, Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulillier, Burrilt, Cameron of Kent, Cauchon, Chabot, Chauveau, Davignon, DeWitt, Duehesnay, Dumas, Flint, Fortier, Fourquin, Guillet, Hall, Hincks, Holmes, Hopkins, Jobin, Johnson, Lacoste, Attorney General LaFontaine, LaTerriere, Laurin, Lemieux, Solicitor General Macdonald, Marquis, McConnell, McFarland, Merritt, Méthot, Mongenais, Morrison, Notman, Papineau, Polelle, Price, Richards, Ross, San» born, Sauvageau, Scott of Bytown, Scott of Two Mountains, Smith of Durham, Smith of Wentworth, Taché, Thompson, Vigor, and Wilson\u2014 52.On Mr.Wilson\u2019s amendment:\u2014 That it is the opinion of this House that an humble Address be presented to Her Most Gracious Majesty the Queen, praying that Her Majesty will recommend to the Imperial Parliament a measure for the repeal of the Imperial Act 3d and 4th Vic.cap.78, having due regard to just invested rights.The mover, and Messrs.Sauvageau and Crysler alone voted for this amendment.On Mr.Boulton\u2019s (Norfolk) amendment:\u2014 Praying that the Imperial Government would repeal the Imperial Act, as the appropriation ol the Clergy Reserves could only constitutionally belong to the Provincial Government.The division was\u2014For, 7 ; Against, 62.Ayes, Messrs.Boulton, (mover), Burritt, Cameron, (Kent), Hopkins, Johnson, McFarland, Scott, \"(Bytown).The principal question was then put by Mr.Price\u2014comprising the 1st and 22 following resolutions : \u2014 (illier, Cameron of Cornwall, Cart er, Cayley, Chauveau, Christie, Crysler, Davignoo, Solicitor General Drummond, Dumas.Fortier, Gugy, Jobin, Lacoste, Attorney General LaFoniatne, La Terriere, Lemieux, Lyon, Solicitor General MacDonald, MacDonald of Kingston, Sir A.N.Me-Nab, McLean, Merritt, Mongenais, Poletto, Prince, Richards, Robinson, Ross, Scott of Two Mountains, Seymour, Sherwood of Brockvide, Sherwood of Toronto, Smith of Frontenac, Stevenson, Taché, Viger, and Wilson.\u201442.division on 29th resolution.For.\u2014Messrs.Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulillier, Burritt, Cartier, De Witt, Davignon, Solicitor Gen.Drummond, Dumas, Flint, Fortier,Hall, Hincks, Holmes, Johnson, Lacoste, Lemieux, Lyon, Solicitor General MacDonald, McConnell, McFarland, Merritt, Mongenais, Morrison, Notman, Papineau, Price, Richards, Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageau, Scott of Two Mountains, Smith of Durham, Smith of Wentworth, Taché, and Thompson.\u201436.Against.\u2014Messrs.Armstrong, Badgley, Boulton of Toronto, Cameron of Cornwall, Cameron of Kent, Cauchon, Cayley, Chabot, Chauveau, Christie, Crysler, Duehesnay, Gugy, Guillet, Hopkins, Jobin, Attorney General LaFontaine, La Terriere, Laurin, Macdonald of Kingston, Sir A.N.fllcNab, McLean, Méthot, Polette, Prince, Robinson, Scott of Bytown, Seymour, Sherwood of Brockville, Sherwood of Toronto, Smith of Frontenac, Stevenson, Viger, and Wilson.\u201434.division on 30th resolution.For.\u2014Messrs.Armstrong, Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulillier, Burritt, Cartier, Cauchon, Chauveau, Davignon, DeWitt, Solicitor General Drummond, Dumas, Flint, Fortier, Hall, Hincks, Holmes, Jobin, Lacoste, Attorney General LaFontaine, Lemieux, Lyon, Solicitor General Macdonald, McConnell, McFarland, Méihot, Mongenais, Morrison, Notman, Papineau, Price, Richards, Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageau, Scott of Two Mountains, Smith of Durham, Smith of Wentworth, Taché, and Thompson.\u201440.Against.\u2014Badgley, Boulton of Toronto, Cameron of Cornwall, Cameron of Kent, Cayley, Chabof, Christie, Crysler, Duehesnay, Gitgr, Guillet, Hopkins, Johnson, LaTerriere, Laurin, Macdonald of Kingston, Sir A.N.McNab, McLean, Polette, Prince, Robinson, Scott of Bytown, Seymour, Sherwood of Brockville, Sherwood of Toronto, Smith of Frontenac, Stevenson, and Wilson.\u201428.division on 31st resolution.For\u2014Armstrong, Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulillier, Burrilt, Cartier, Cauehon, Chauveau, Davignon, DeWitt, Solicitor Gen\u2019l Drummond, Dumas, Flint, Fortier, Gugy, Guillet, Hall, Hincks, Holmes, Jobin, Johnson, Lacoste, Ally.Gen.LaFontaine, Lemieux, Lyon, Sol.General Macdonald, McConnell, McFarland, Méthot, Mongenais, Morrison,Notman, Papineau, Polette, Price, Richards, Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageau, Scott of Bytown, Scott of Two Mountains, Smith of Durham, Smith of Wentworth, Taché, & Thompson\u201445.Against\u2014Badgley, Boulton of Toronto, Cameron of Cornwall, Cameron of Kent, Cayley, Chabot, Christie, Crysler, Duehesnay, Hopkins, LaTerriere, Laurin, Macdonald of Kingston, Sir Allan N MacNab, McLean, Prince, Robinson, Seymour, Sherwood of Brockville, Sherwood ol Toronto, Smith of Frontenac, Stevenson, and Wilson\u201423.sion of the fast Pailianiem of Upper Canada, a Message was seat itown to the House from the Governor General the II,.,hi Hon.C.P.Thomson, hv which the House was informed, that the Bill passed during the previous Session had not received the Royal Assent, there being an iasuper-uble objection to it on a point of tonn.That His Excellency suited moreover that ia the opinion ol His .Majesty\u2019s Govenunent, the Provincial Legislature would bring lo the decision of the question an extent of accurate information as to tlie wants and general opinions of Society in this Country in which the Imperial Parliament is unavoidably dehcieiiL\t,\t,\t, 23,_anolher attempt at settlement was made dur- ing the last Session of the Parliament of Upper Canada, when a Bill passed both Houses providing for ihe sale and disposal of the Clergy Reserves, which Bill having been reserved for die Roval Assent was not assented to by Her V desireToFlTpai'ticuIar course, fie proceeded to repel the menaces which had been made by gentlemen of the opposition, to alarm hon members from Lower Canada.It was in vain to attempt to alarm hon gentlemen by lugubrious prophecies and melodramatic airs\u2014it was in vain that they were told lo take care of themselves, and not to vote for what they thought just, lest hon members from Upper Canada should hereafter do what they acknowledged to be unjust.Such an argument was neither convincing nor generous.He believed that there was a great difference between the position of these properties and that of the Catholic properties in Lower Canada.The first had been constantly subject to change and debate, and had been constantly legislated upon and their disposition changed ; the latter had been held without any change for a long series of years, without any dispute, and, what was a still better title, by the universal respect and reverence of the people as well Protestant as Catholic.These possessions were given only like any other seigniories, and there was this farther difter-ence between them and the property at present under discussion, that the former were in .\u2019no case given for the support of worship.-That was maintained entirely by tithes, and the persons who would lose by the destitution of'the religious corporations were the poor .sick and infirm.Having made these obser-valions, he would conclude by stating, that if 5.the resolutions contained any thing to show that after the controul of the reserves were given up to the Canadian Legislature, they ! would not be diverted from their destination, ' [ he would have voted for them, As it was he \\ must vole against the twenty-fifth, twenty-\\ ninth and thirtieth., Mr McConnel said he understood perhaps less than oilier members about ihe legislation which had occurred on this subject ; butas a settler in a new country, he understood, perhaps, better than they, the operation of these reserves in preventing the settlement of the country.He then went on to show how the reserves of blocks of lands in the Townships refuse to vote for anything except the 29th Resolution.He would not vote for that because he thought there were acquired rights to be preserved ; but he had no objection to vote for asking to have the control of the reserves placed in the hands of the Colonial Parliament.As to the proposition to proceed by bill, he was sure that, whatever the motive, the effect would be to retard the measure.Suppose the bill should be rejected by the Upper House, in which the hon member who moved for the bill professed to have no confidence : it could be done there.To proceed by bill would be to insult the Imperial Government, while the address would probably gain the point.He would also vote against the amendment of the the hon member for the West Riding ; for he differed on the main resolution, because he would not say there were not vested rights.But the amendment assumed that there were no rights, even of incumbents.The votes were then taken on Mr.Cameron\u2019s amendment, after which the debate was prolonged a considerable time in a desultory manner; but without producing anything new, the whole subject having been completely exhausted.During the course of this discussion and the voting on the several amendments, Mr.Price replied on the general question:\u2014He began by defending himself from tho imputation of popularity hunting ; and went on to say, in answer to the question asked him as to the destination to which the Clergy Reserves, [when obtained, were to be put, that he want-led them put into the hands of the people, and I hat he would be satisfied with whatever the (people determined on.At present he would1 not pledge himself to one or other course.\u2014 He argued that it was necessary, in going to Great Britain, to ask for the restoration of this power, to show that the vested rights of incumbents should bo maintained.He wanted logo with persuasive language, which would induce them to comply with the demand.\u2014 He was not afraid to stand before the people of Canada and justify the preservation of the miserable pittance awarded to persons brought out to this country, in order that the entire question might be settled.As to bringing in a bill to repeal an Imperial Act, he would not so stultify himself, if he were asked by the constituents of every man in the house.He then went into a long defence of the voluntary system ; but was interrupted by the impatience of the Itouse.Mr Scott also took an opportunity to reply to the remarks of Mr Hincks, the night before.He said he would not have spoken a word but for the attack on himself the night before by Mr Hincks.If he (Mr Scott) had misrepresented the hon Attorney General (West), it would have been in the usual course of things for that gentleman to defend himself.But that was not the intention of the hon member for Oxford.He wished to vent his ire upon some person, and he therefore vented it on him.The Inspector General knew that he (Mr Scott) was not one who wished to make political capital ; but that he wished long ago to retire from the House.He had always expressed his opinion independently, and should always do so ; but this he would say, that if it were his misfortune to be in the House another Parliament, as he hoped it would not be, and if it should be his lot to support a ministry, be hoped it might be a ministry possessed of an Inspector General with a little better temper.Mr M,Cameron defended himself from the observations of Mr Price in the same way as he had done on previous occasions.The following are the several votes, taken between half-past 11 and half-past 2 o\u2019clock, placed altogether :\u2014 division.Por\u2014Armstrong, Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulton (Norfolk), Boulillier, Burritt, Cameron (Kent), Cartier, Chauveau, Davignon, DeWitt, Solicitor General Drummond, Duehesnay, Dumas, Flint, Fortier, Fourquin, Guillet, Hall, Hiiteks, Holmes, Hopkins, Jobin, Johnson, Lacoste, Attorney General LaFontaine, Laurin, Lemieux, Lyon, Solicitor General MacDonald, Marquis, McConnell, McFarland, Merritt, Alethot, Mongenais, Morrison, Notman, Papineau, Po.letto, Price, Richards, Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageau, Scott (Two Mountains), Seymour, Smith (Durham), Smith (Wentworth), Tache, Thompson, and Wilson.\u201452.AjjatnsI\u2014Badgley, Boulton (Toronto), Came, ron (Cornwall), Cauchon, Cayley, Chabot, Chris, tie, Crysler, Gugy, LaTerriere, MacDonald (Kingston), Sir Allan MacNab, McLean, Robinson, Sherwood (Brockville), Smith (Frontenac), \u2019 Stevenson, and Viger.\u201418.The 24th Resolution.DIVISION.Fur\u2014Armstrong, Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulton (Norfolk), Boutillier, Burritt, Cameron (Kent), Cartier, Chauveau, Davignon, DeWitt Solicitor General Drummond, Duehesnay, Dumas, Flint, Fortier, Fourquin, Guillet, Hall, Hincks, Holmes, Hopkins, Jobin, Johnson, Lacoste, At.torney General LaFontaine, Laurin, Lemieux, Lyon, Solicitor General MacDonald, Marquis, McConnell, McFarland, Merritt, Methot, Mongenais, Morrison, Notman, Papineau, Polette, Price, Richards, Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageau, Seott (Two Mountains), Smith (Durham), Smith (Wentworth), Taché, Thompson, and Wilson.\u201451.Against\u2014Badgley, Cameron (Cornwall), Cauchon, Cayley, Chabot, Christie, Crysler, Gugy, LaTerriere, McDonald (Kingston), Sir A N Mac.Nab, McLean, Prince, Robinson, Seymour, Sherwood (Brockville).Sherwood (Toronto), Smith (Frontenac), Stevenson, and Viger.\u20142U.Tho 25th Resolution.DIVISION.For\u2014Armstrong, Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulton (Norfolk), Boutillier, Burritt, Cameron (Kent), Cartier, Davignon, DeWitt, Solicitor General Drummond, Dumas, Flint, Fortier, Fuur-quin, Hall, Hincks, Hopkins, Jobin, Johnson, Lacoste, Attorney General LaFontaine, Lemieux, Lyon, Solicitor General MacDonald, Marquis, McConnell, McFarland, Merritt, Mongenais,Morrison, Notman, Polette, Price, Richards, Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageau, Scott (Bytown), Scott (Two Mountains), Smith (Durham), Smiih(Wentworth), Thompson, and Wilson.\u201445.Against\u2014Badgley, Boulton (Toronto), Cameron (Cornwall), Cauchon, Cayley, Chabot, Chauveau, Christie, Crysler, Duehesnay, Gugy, Guillet, LaTerriere, Laurin, MacDonald (Kingston), Sir Allan N MacNab, McLean, Methot, Prince, Robinson, Seymour, Sherwood (Brockville), Sherwood (Toronto), Smith (Frontenac), Stevenson, Taché, and Wilson.\u201427.The 26th Resolution.Mr Boulton (Toronto), moved in amendment: \u2014\u201c That an address be presented praying tor such an amendment in our Constitution, as to give us full liberty to legislate on this and ail other subjects.\u201d The mover and Messrs.Christie, MeConnell, and Prince, alone voted lur this amendment.The vote being then taken on the resolution, was carried\u201448 for ; 19 against.The 27ih and28ih Resolutions.DIVISION.For.\u2014Messrs.Armstrong, Attorney General Baldwin, Bell, Boulillier, Burritt, Cameron of Kent, Cartier, Chauveau, DeWitt, Solicitor General Drummond, Duehesnay, Dumas, Flint, For tier, Hall, Hincks, Holmes, Hopkins, Jobin, Johnson, Lacoste, Attorney General Lafontaine, Lau rin, Lemieux, Lyon, Solicitor General Macdonald, McConnell, McFarland, Merritt, Methot, Mon gênais, Morrison, Notman, Papineau, Polette, Price, Richards, Ross, Sanborn, Sauvageau, Scott of Bytown, Scott of Two Mountains, Smith of Durham, Smith of Wentworth, Taché, Thomp' son, and Wilson.\u201447.Against.\u2014Messrs.Badgley, Cameron of Corn, wall, Cauchon, Cayley, Chabot, Christie.Chrys 1er, Gugy, LaTerriere, Macdonald of Kingston, Sir A.N.McNab.McLean, Prince, Robinson, Seymour, Sherwood of Brockville, Sherwood of Toronto, Smith of Frontenac, Stevenson and Viger.\u201420.The 29th Resolution being put, Mr.Morrison moved in amendment (we translate from the French, not having received our English copy) That, in the opinion of this House, the most just, convenient and satisfactory mode of settling this question, so long debated, would be for the British Parliament to pass an Act, repealing the Im perial Act 3 and 4 Viet., eh.78 ; and, to the effect of obtaining this desirable object, that an ad.dress should be presented to Her Majesty the Queen, praying that she would be graciously pleased to recommend the repeal ol the said Act to the Imperial Parliament, and that the lands, commonly called the Clergy Reserves, and the revenues derived and to be derived from them, be placed at the disposition of the Canadian Legis-iature.DIVISION ON AMENDMENT.For.\u2014Messrs.Burritt, Cameron of Ken t, Ci chon, Chabot, DeWitt, Duehesnay, Flint, Guillet, Hall, Holmes, Hopkins, Laurin, McConnell, McFarland.Méthot, Morrison, Notman, Papineau, Sanborn, Scolt of Bytown, Smith of Durham, Smith of Wentworth, and Thompson.\u201423.Against.\u2014Messrs.Armstrong, Badgley, Attorney General Baldwin, Boulton of Toronto, Bon RESOLUTIONS To be proposed by the Honorable Mr.Price, on which lo found an Address to Her Majesty on the subject of the Clergy Reserves.1.\t\u2014That the reservation of a large portion of the Public Domain of the Province, for the support of a Protestant Clergy, by an Act [Kissed in the 31st year of Her Majesty\u2019s Royal Predecessor, King George the III, has been for many years a source of intense dissatisfaction to the great majority of Her Majesty\u2019s Subjects in Upper Canada.2.\t\u2014That it appears by the last Census taken in Upper Canada, that the Population of that Section of the Pro -vince, was in the year 1848, 723,332 of which 239,651 are returned as in connexion with the Churches of England and Scotland, the only churches receiving any considerable benefit from the Clergy Reserve endowment.3.\t\u2014That it appears by the last Census taken in Lower Canada, that the population in that Section of the Province.was in the year 1844, 678,490 of which only 70,329 are returned as in connexion with the Churches of England and Scotland.4.\t\u2014That the power given by the 41st clause of the above mentioned Act to the Provincial Legislature, to \u2018 vary or repeal\u201d the provisions respecting the allotment and appropriation of lands for the support of a Protestant Clergy, affords sufficient evidence, that in the opinion of the Imperial Parliament the question was one that ought to be settled with reference to the state of public opinion in the colony rather than to that in the Mother Country.5.\t\u2014That in the early settlement of the Province the reserved lands were of little value, and as no sales had then been authorized by the Imperial Parliament, the question attracted but a slight share of public attention.6.\t\u2014That so soon as the intention of the Government to dispose of the lands reserved in Upper Canada became known, the Representatives of the people of that Province took the whole subject into their most serious consideration, and with an unanimity that prevailed on no other question, endeavoured to remove a grievance universally complained of by the people, save and except by those interested in the maintenance of church establishments.7.\t\u2014That in the year 1827 a Bill to authorize the sale of the Clergy Reserves and the application of the proceeds thereof to thu purposes of General Education, was passed through the House of Assembly of Upper Canada, the division on the second reading having been 22 to 6 ; that this Bill was rejected by the Legislative Council.8.\t\u2014That a dissolution having taken place soon after the Tenth Parliament of Upper Canada met in the year 1829, when a Bill for the sale of the Clergy Reserves and the application of the proceeds to Educational purposes, passed through the various stages in the House of Assembly without a division, but was again rejected by the Legislative Council.9.\t\u2014That in the year 1830, during the second Session of the ITenth Parliament, another Bill containing similar provisions to the former ones was passed by the House of Assembly without a division, and was rejected by the Legislative Council.10.\t\u2014That a dissolution having taken place, a new Parliament met in the year 1831, when resolutions expressing the same views were adopted by a large majority in the House of Assembly, an amendment proposed by the Solicitor General having been rejected on a division of 29 to 7.11.\t\u2014That in the year 1832, during the second Session of the Eleventh Parliament an Address to the Crown praying for the application of the Clergy Reserves to Educational purposes was carried by a large majority in the House of Assembly, the amendments proposed by Mr.Attorney Gen.Boulton, and Mr.Solicitor Gen.Hager-man having been supported by only six members of the House.12.\t\u2014That after the passage of the Address last referred to, a message was sent down to the House by the Lieut.Governor, Sir John Colborne, in which His Excellency stated that he had His Majesty\u2019s commands to make a communication to the House of Assembly in reference to the lands set apart for the support and maintenance of a Protestant Clergy ; and His Excellency informed the House that the representations made to His Majesty and to His Royal Predecessors of the prejudice sustained by His faithful subjects in this Province, from the appropriation of the Clergy Reserves, had engaged His Majesty\u2019s, most attentive consideration, that His Majesty had eoiisidered with no less anxiety, how far such an appropriation of Territory is conducive either to the Temporal welfare of the Ministers of religion in this Province or to their spiritual Influence, and that His Majesty invited the House of Assembly of Upper Canada to consider how the power given lo the Provincial Legislature by the Constitutional Act, to vary or repeal this part of its provisions, can be called into exercise most advantageously for the Spiritual and Temporal interests of His Majesty\u2019s faithful subjects in this Province.13.\t\u2014That after the reception of the above Message, a Bill to re-invest the Clergy Reserves in the Crown discharged of all trusts whatsoever, was introduced and read a second time on a division of 29 to 7.14.\t\u2014That in the year 1833, during the Third Session of the Eleventh Parliament, a Bill having similar provisions with that formerly adopted by the House, was read a second time on division of 26 to 2.15.\t\u2014That in the year 1834, during the Fourth Session of the Eleventh Parliament, a Bill of a similar character was passed through its several stages in the House of Assembly by considerable majorities, though opposed with the whole weight of the Government, but was rejected by the Legislative Council.16.\t\u2014That in the year 1835, during the First Session, of the Twelfth Parliament of Upper Canada, a Bill for the sale of the Clergy Reserves and the application of the proceeds lo Educational purposes -was passed by a majority of 40 to 4, but was rejected by the Legislative Council.17.\t\u2014That during the same Session resolutions were sent down to the House of Assembly by the Legislative Council, in which the opinion was expressed that as the Legislature of the Province had been unable to concur in any measure respecting the Clergy Reserves, it was expedient to address His Majesty and both Houses of Parliament, requesting that the Imperial Parliament should legislate on the subject.18.\t\u2014That the House of assembly, by a majority of 24 to 12, resolved that this House has heretofore repeatedly passed Bills providing for the sale of the Clergy Reserves, and the appropriation of the monies arising therefrom to the support of Education, which Bills have been rejected without amendment by the Legislative Council.That with the same view this House have repeatedly made known, by humble and dutiful addresses to His Majesty, their wishes and opinions, and the wishes and opinions of His Majesty\u2019s faithful subjects in this Province on this highly important subject, and this House takes this opportunity of declaring that these wishes and opinions, both on the part of this House and of their constituents remain entirely unchanged.That during the Second Session of the last Parliament His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor by Message informed the House that he had received His Majesty\u2019s instructions to declare that the representations which had at different times been made to His Majesty and his Royal Predecessors, of the prejudice sustained by His Majesty\u2019s faithful subjects in this Province from the appropriation of the Clergy Reserves, had engaged His Majesty\u2019s most attentive consideration, and His Majesty had most graciously been pleased to invite the House of Assembly to consider how the powers given to the Provincial Legislature by the Constitutional Act, to vary or repeal the provisions which it contains for the allotment and appropriation ofthe Clergy Reserves, would be most advantageously exercised for the Spiritual and Temporal interests of his faithful subjects in this Province.That this House, in compliance with His Majesty\u2019s wishes thus graciously expressed, and with the strongest and well known desires ©f His Majesty\u2019s faithful subjects in this Province, has passed a Bill during the present Session to provide for sale of the Clergy Reserves, and to apply the money arising from such sales to the support of Education.That the said Legislative Council has not passed the said Bill, has not amended it, and has not passed any.other bill on the subject.19.\t\u2014That in the year 1836, during the Second Session of the Twelfth Parliament, a Bill embodying similar principles to those repeatedly passed by the House ol Assembly was again introduced, and was carried on a division by a majority of 35 to 5.That the said Bill was amended in the Legislative Council by expunging all the enacting clauses, and substituting provsisons for investing the Reserves in the Crown, to be applied for the maintenance of Public Worship and the support of Religion.That the House of Assembly adopted by a majority of 27 to 1, certain amendments to the amended Bill sent down by the Legislative Council affirming the principles of then orig- nl20 \u2014That during the same Session, a Despatch from Lord Glenelg, His Majesty\u2019s Principal Secretary of Slate for the Colonies to Lieutenant Governor Sir Francis Head, was communicated to the House in which.His Lordship treated the question as one to be settled by the Provincial Legislature, and declined to interfere with the deliberations of the Legislature by offering any suggestions of his own.21.\u2014That the Twelfth Parliament having been dissolved by Sir Francis Head, a general election was held at a period of o-reat excitement, and the question ofthe disposal ofthe Clergy Reserves appears to have been lost sight of during the political struggle which ensued.That during the first three Sessions ofthe Thirteenth Parliament, various effort.* were made to settle the question, but without any satisfactory result.That at length in the course ofthe Third Session.a Bill which had passed the Legislative Council providing- for the reinvestment of the said Reserves in the Imperia?Parliament was concurred in by a Majority of 22 to 21.223\u2014That in the year 1839 during the Fifth and last Ses- Majesty.24.\t-That on Her Majesty\u2019s decision to withhold the Royal Assent from the said Bill, Her Majesty\u2019s Government submitted to the Imperial Parliament a bill providing for the sale and distribution of the proceeds ofthe Clergy Reserves which so far from settling this long agitated question has left it to be the subject of renewed and increased public discontent.\t\u201e\t,\t, -\t\u2022\t, ,\t, 25.\t_That apart from the objection entertained by the gieat majority of Her Majesty\u2019s Subjects in Canada to religious endowments, by which certain favoured denominations of Christians are kept in connection with the State and thereby placed in superiority over others, the present disposition of the revenue derived from the Clergy Reserve investments is manifestly unjust.26.\t_That the entire revenue derived from the invest- ments made before the passiugof the Imperial Act 3 and 4 Victoria Chapter 78, has been assigned to the Churches of England and Scotland, to the exclusion of the Wesleyan Episcopal and New Connexion Methodists, the Free Presbyterian Church of Canada, the United Presbterian Church, ihe Baptists, Congregationalists and other Religious Bodies, whose pastors have an equal claim to the designation of a Protestant Clergy with those of the Churches of England and Scotland.27.\t_That it appears from the facts above stated, that dur- ing a long period of years, and in nine successive Sessions of the Provincial Parliament, the Representatives of the people of Upper Canada with an unanimity seldom exhibited m a deliberative body declared their opposition to religious endowments of the character above referred to.That the wishes of the people were thwarted by the Legislative Council, a body containing a majority avowedly favourable to the ascendancy of the Church of England.That Her Majesty\u2019s Imperial Government from time to lime, invited the Provincial Parliament to Legislate on the subject of these Reserves, disclaiming on the part of the Crown any desire for the superiority ot one or more particular Churches.'Unit Her Majesty\u2019s Government in declining to advise the Royal Assent being given to a Bill passed by a Ma-joittty of one, for investing the Reserves in the Imperial P Montreal, 7th June, 1850.s\t86 \u2014-V_ >.k 1 :
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